Jun 8, 2019

Jainism Perspective on Condemning Others...


Q3. Why do Jains concentrate all their efforts in saving minutest bugs, yet ignore violence to human beings such as sometimes condemning other Jain sects, and considers other religion Gods as Ku-devs and Gurus as Ku-gurus etc.?



A3. This is a very perceptive question related to conduct/achar of Jain laypeople. Yes, some Jain laypeople might be carrying out this kind of behavior. However, at the same time, all of us have also witnessed Jain laypeople, who have truly internalized basic Jain values / principles and they live by those values starting with their immediate family, relatives, community, animals, plants, environment etc. Therefore, as fellow Jains, our primary responsibilities are:
  • Understand, internalize and practice Jain values and principles.
  • Do not take part in any behavior that is contradicting with our basic Jain values and principles.
  • Understand potential root causes for such mindset and behavior and address them with integrity, honesty and humility so that it does not propagate in the future generations.
Jainism preaches Ahimsa (Non-violence) as well as Anekantvad (Non-absolutism). Now, let’s observe and discuss this kind of behavior from Jainism’s guiding principles perspective:
Ahimsa perspective:  
Jainism believes Ahimsa should be practiced through our thoughts, words and actions towards all living beings (Of one, two, three, four or five senses), in our best power. So, this explains the Jain follower’s action with “Ahimsa” mindset take extra efforts of saving a little bug’s life. However, at the same time and in the situation from this question, these same Jain followers may forget another very important aspect of Ahimsa - to follow Ahimsa through words and thoughts as well towards all living beings. Condemning other Jain sects and other religions, preachers, gurus and followers of these Jain sects or other religion is considered Himsa towards 5-sense human beings through words and thoughts.

This contradicts with the basic guiding principles of Jainism and is considered “Mithyatva” (ignorance/false belief) of that Jain follower. Most importantly, we should note that one doing the condemning might be doing so from rooted cultural upbringings, surrounding, culture, media, peer pressure etc. and not from the understanding of basic religious principles.

Anekantvad Perspective:
Anekantvad is one of the other basic guiding principles of Jainism that encourages acceptance of relativism and pluralism. According to this doctrine, truth and reality are perceived differently from different points of view, and no single point of view is the complete truth. Jainism teaches non-judgement through the principle of Anekantvad.
Anekantvad is multiplicity of viewpoint or pluralism, Ekantvada is dogmatic viewpoint or Singularism.  It is all about how we view and form an opinion about a given object or a situation. Truth (Existent) is expressed in many ways. One cannot make a definite statement about Truth or Existent, each statement is true in its own limited sense.  To understand the nature of Existent, one requires the vision of seeing an entity from all direction, which is Anekantvad.
In regard to other religions, if these religions offer individuals a path to reducing their own kashayas (anger, ego, greed, deceit) and provide a peaceful way towards happiness, then that is a positive thing for all of us.
Again, it is important that we continue to focus on the core intent of Jainism, which is to eliminate our Mithyatva and reduce our kashayas, by practicing right faith, right knowledge, and right conduct. This way we will break free from the cycle of life and death.
If other religions, scholars, teachers, provide a means for individuals to make positive progress, then that should not be judged or condemned just because it is a different way of practicing. It is our ego in action when we make negative comments about other religions and such actions have no place in this kind of context.

Let’s reflect and learn from Mahavir Swami’s life:
Mahavir Swami was born in Kshatriya (warrior) family, fought against injustices and malaises of class-based society. He had some disciples from untouchable class and his first Gandhar (disciple) was a Brahmin. His life is an example of holistically practicing Jain values. Nowhere in his teaching or lifestyle, will we see the condemning of other religion or their gurus.
There are many such examples in recent history and there are Jain followers in today’s world who are fighting for equality in society (regardless of religious belief) either as journalists, social workers, as community organizers etc. There might be some individuals carrying out actions that are not concert with Jain values and we should be able to correct these individuals, but to assert that all Jains are involved in such non-harmonious view is not true either.

Now, let’s introspect on the potential underlying root causes for such mindset and behavior in some Jain laypeople:
  • Some of the Jain lay-community practice religion based on sermons/vyakhyan from ascetics and by blindly following traditional rituals. Most of the time they do without pondering on purpose, reasons behind them. Sermons accepted by faith alone and not testing with their own intellect, reasoning/experience, results into very little internalization of Jain values and principles. Eventually, that could become a mundane daily chore and a person becomes dogmatics instead of an involved activity that brings happiness and value to their life.
  • The ascetics practice Ahimsa as Mahavrat and do not hurt even minutest bugs. Some ascetics preach that to the lay community, instead of Ahimsa Anuvrat of laypeople (ref - review Q2) and how laypeople should live a life with minimum violence. If the Jain values are not truly understood or internalized, then how does one define minimum violence in their environment without understanding and internalization of the Jain principles and values? 
  • Jain ascetics are mostly sectarian Jains. Some ascetics may not intentionally teach respect for other Jain sects and other religions. Sometimes in order to promote their sect, it may appear that they are degrading other Jain sects and condemning other religions. Jainism is a religion of humility and not egoist statements like, our religion is the only best or the most supreme religion. 
Hence, for the situation in this question, the traditional laypeople interpret saving a minute bug is a Jain religion and they do not have any understanding that insulting or condemning other non-Jain human being or other religion is a violation of basic Jain principles.

Jain scriptures indicate that any activities we do that helps to eliminate Mithaytva and reduce our Kashayas is considered the Tirthankara’s preaching.

In summary,
The underlying values of all religions are to live in harmony with all living beings and help each other, with that we do not have any right to condemn other religions. At the same time, if there are any non-harmonious or harmful efforts, then we all have the responsibility to act and protect, without Kashayasarising within us.
When looking at other religions / cultures / sects etc. we must think, "I may not understand what others are doing, but it may be helping them reduce their Kashayas (anger, ego, greed, deceit)." We do not know what transformation is happening inside the other person. We may not agree with it but it might be right for others.
Any activity of body, mind and speech, which removes Mithyatva and reduces Kashaya is religion for us. For example, if reading any other religion book helps reduce my Kashayas then that is fine. Reducing Kashayas makes us Jain and by condemning others, we are actually building up our ego and increasing our kashayas. We should focus on our spiritual well-being, withdraw from violence and should respect all Souls and religions.

25 comments:

  1. It is very hard to comment without the ego being involved,however the final line sums up all!

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  2. Jainism even go above and beyond the concept of doing harm (Ahimsa) to other Jeevas by Man, Vachan and Kaya (mind, body and speech). It also talks about refraining from doing Ahimsa of self (Swa Atma, Swa Jeevatma) by not dwelling into Raag and Dvesh and four Kashays of Krodh, Maan, Maya, Lobh.

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  3. Jai Jinendra,
    Thank you for presenting this opportunity to express my thoughts.
    Condemning others is just one of the many ways in trying to stop others.
    It is more modern phenomenon that most of the Jain communities have restrained themselves from raising their voice against violence of all kinds. Particularly at a time when social media is so powerful that it can reach people and places like never before, we must make every possible attempt to offer our support and help to others to reduce violence - not just by words, but completely from their thoughts.

    6 kaay ni raksha (protecting all 6 types of living being) is one of the Jain shravak's primary responsibilities - which has been (somewhat conveniently) forgotten and ignored.
    We need to bring this back to our culture - not only in words, but in action starting with we taking that first step.

    Micchami dukkadam if my opinion is hurting anyone.

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    1. There is a better way to achieve the same. That is, actively promote your values (e.g. non-violence) with compassion instead of criticizing others beliefs.

      If someone believes that violence is the way to go to heaven or killing animals is not violence then understand that it is due to their ignorance aka Mithyatva. Condemning them would be a violence on our part through our thoughts and words. Violence in one form cannot be used to stop the violence in another form. A true practitioner would not do that. Instead a very compassionate approach that promotes non-violence through education and awareness practices would be needed to change these beliefs.

      One small example is that Jain youths in USA and other parts of the world are slowly becoming Vegans. This is not happening because someone somewhere is condemning them. This is happening because they are becoming aware/educated of the violence happening against dairy animals.

      Expressing your disapproval towards violence is fine as long as you do it with compassion for the other party in your thoughts, speech and deeds.

      For example, if someone says to you...

      "Jains don't step on the grass but they consume cow's milk." This is a violent speech as there is criticism in it. There is also ignorance of the speaker about the subject.

      However, if the same person says...

      "Given the highest level of non-violence Jains practice, it is time that they make themselves aware of violent dairy industry practices". This is a compassionate speech. The speaker has intention to help a Jain practice his values better. It will have better impact on you as a listener. You would be motivated to educate yourself about the subject and correct your actions.

      Whatever you do, do it with compassionate attitude towards who you are trying to change. That is the only way (if any) to change anyone. Condemning attitude does not seem to have that compassion.

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    2. Very informative materials for non Jain to understand the basic principles of Jainism.
      Anumodana.

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  4. I would like to appreciate this very well written blog post and all the ones that you have written in this Q and A style. You are doing a great service to the global Jain community of all ages!

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  5. A corollary question: Why do Jains concentrate all their efforts in saving minutest bugs, yet ignore violence to cows and calves in the conventional dairy industry or violence to deer, tigers and other wildlife who are displaced by the "Ahimsa" dairy industry?

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    1. They don't!
      It is only that we all face bugs, ants & mosquetoes hundreds of times each day, while we don't really come to face cows, deer, tigers or other animals as much!

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  6. I dont think the earliest Jains or Jain monks thought like this. Otherwise, Jainism wouldn't have spread anywhere.

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    1. Jainism is difficult to follow and so we are few in population all over world. In India only about 0.5 % Now let all remaining do understand Jainism first . Now days with fast spreading media to pinpoint what other are doing is not our business (Because by that these people make us in trouble ) Is our population going to increase from now ??? (My answer is NO) With little difference in all our Jain division (Digambara & Shewambar & other) we must unite . Think Jain population after 100,500,1000 years after . Now world is run on number game .
      This my personal view one can correct it
      Thanks

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  7. I really agree to the answer given to q3.it sums up the purpose of our life .Instead of blind following internalizing of teachings by a Guru or scripture of any religion or science is the key to a happy fulfilling life finally leading to ascension

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  8. Umesh Galaiya6/08/2019 6:52 PM

    The answer to this question as I see it is that other religions bring one from Ashubh to Shubh, they reduce kashays but do not get rid of mithyatv which is the main thing whilst reducing our kashays, and that is why they are criticized, but obviously this should not be so, as they are correct at their level. Dada Bhagwan's 3rd Kalam reads "Dearest Dada Bhagwan (Pure Soul within), please give me the absolute inner energy not to criticize, find fault or insult any living monk, nun, preacher or a religious head." Internalizing this statement improves our vyavhar (life from a worldly viewpoint).

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  9. An individual becomes a mirror of the faith that they practice and vouch to practice. The spiritual teachings are universal truths. The daily practices identified as behavioural practices of a follower are presented to an Individual. When it is followed selectively, such questions arise. It merits introspection by each follower and cannot become a statement on the religion or principles enunciated and explored by more evolved beings. People of all faiths need to appreciate Kate this differentiation when discussed. Since as people of the society, we are all pursuing the path towards perfection from an imperfect state, such aberrations are bound to exist. Does such aberration start to define the religion - the obvious answer is no. Therefore one needs to see this subject in the above context

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  10. A few points, I would like to make regarding this discussion:

    1. After attaining Keval Gyan, Mahavir Bhagwan had seen and told what is going to happen in fifth ara and sixth ara. We can relate to what he had said about environmental aspects by correlating with global warming, pollution, water scarcity etc in today's world. And things are going to degrade with time, as per what he said. On a different line, he had also said how fragmented jain religion will be, and that is what we see today and one of the topics of the discussion on this thread. What he had seen and said is bound to happen.

    2. Core principles of Jainism remain the same across the sects. The differences may be primarily at superficial day to day ritual levels. So leaving aside those one percent differences or disagreements, it might help to focus on ninty nine percent common and core values and principles to help unite instead of divide (though the point 1 above would still rule).


    3. Within a sect, further divisions are happening due to ego and want of power and position of our senior sadhu bhagwant (no intention of criticism here). Sangh and sharaks have a big role to play here to prevent this. Recently, one of the smaller sect, which has single digit sadhu bhagwant ,got divided into two, and I feel, sangh could have prevented the same by timely intervention.

    4. With regards to condemnation and criticism, I don't think there is a place for the same in Jainism. 4 extended bhavanas (Maitry, Pramod, Karuna and Madhysth) cover the whole universe, and in this there is no place for hate, criticism or condemnation. However, to prevent our young generation to incline towards other religions, other gurus and devi devata, which involves hinsa, mithyatv etc, it is probably necessary to identify and highlight the same keeping karuna or madhyastha bhav towards people following the same.

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  11. THOUGH WE FOLLOW ANEKANTVAD BUT IN SOME OF BELIEFS WE STAND SOLIDLY ON EKENTVAD SUCH AS, THERE IS NO ONE SUPERIOR TO FORD MASTER/ TIRTHANKARS, THAT OUR JAINISM IS THE BEST RELIGION ( PRADHANAM SARVA DHARMANAM JAINAM JAYATI SHASHANAM) WE DON'T EVEN WORSHIP RAM, HANUMAN, KRUSHNA. JESUS, NANAK SAHEB OR SHRIRAMAKRUSHNA PARAMHANSA. I AM NOT SURE WHETHER THEY ARE KU-GURU OR KU-DEV

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  12. Dear Pravinbhai and Committee Members:

    I am eternally grateful for the enlightening blogs your committee are addressing. It addresses important questions in a very understandable language for those who have inquiring mind. There are no dogmas in your discourses; it represents true value of Jain philosophy. Please keep up the good work. Even, at the age of 83 yrs, I am learning a lot from you blogs.
    Thank you all for doing a great service to our inquiring minds.

    Sincerely yours

    Chandrakant Shah, MD, FRCPC, O.ONT.
    Professor Emeritus, Dalla Lana School of Public Health
    University of Toronto
    Tel: 905 990 5111

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  13. Jai Jinendra
    Bhagwan Mahavir do not condemn any Ku Gurus, Ku dharma etc, he shows the difference between right and wrong, the difference between brass and gold, we are not fanatics, whole Jain Darshan can be proved logically as well. One must study whole Jain Darshan and decide opinion, just by knowing half truth one makes opinion is not correct.
    Micchami Dukkadam

    Tushar Kothari
    +91 9824206009

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    1. This is a great response to article. Some misunderstood the whole concept of test. How would you know your guru is su-guru, dev is su-dev and dharma is su-dharma. Tests are very well placed in Jain scriptures.

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    2. Also, only Jain religion is mentioning Anya linge Siddha. So Jain scriptures are not pointing ku-guru, ku-dev and ku-dharma.

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  14. Jive or Soul is one continuum. Condemning other living being is condemning ourselves.Friendship with other living being requires not to condemn.

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  15. I plan to not miss out even single post of this blog. The basics of Jainism is very important and I want to be clear of it and I hope it will help many. Jai Jinendra

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  16. This is utterly off-base and illogical understanding of Jain darshan. The concept of kudev, kuguru and kudharm applies to those who make ridiculous statements, harbor ill will or malice, not necessary teachers of other religions.

    Anyways, a catholic priest who rapes innocent teenagers is a kuguru. A dev whose worship requires animal sacrifice is a kudev, and a religion which promotes or supports cruel and inhumane practices including routine cruelty and exploitation of sentient creatures is kudharm. Sometimes, such language may seem self-defeating, but ultimately it is necessary to help not get lost in moh-maya of this asaar sansaar.

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  17. Though I am not a Jain but the blog on the Jainism perspective on the alcohol was very informative and eye opening. As the blog says the social drinkers are under the peer pressure and trying to fit in the society despite realizing that it is not good healthier to drink. Of course one has to limit the consumption of the alcohol during such gathering so that one's mind functions right in decision making.

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  18. Jay jinendra.
    Very informative for both Jain and Non Jain.
    Glad to understand the basic principles of Jainism.

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  19. I once attended a talk by some Jain sadhu from India, who enumerated some statistics on how small a percentage of the world population are Jains, and as such, how privileged Jains are to being born as Jains!!! Goodness gracious, talk about ego. Have you seen these people? They will go to crazy lengths, even inconveniencing other human beings (ie. 5 sensed organisms with the most developed central nervous system in the world) just to avoid things like root vegetables. Then in the same breath they'll be backbiting about others, professing their spiritual superiority over followers of other religions, and that too without even reading the scriptures or understanding the other spiritual traditions in even the most basic sense.

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